Platonis Parmenides<\/span><\/p>\n 139 b – 139 c<\/span><\/p>\n\n [139\u03b2] \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1f70 \u03bc\u1f74\u03bd \u03c4\u03cc \u03b3\u03b5 \u03bc\u03b7\u03b4\u03ad\u03c0\u03bf\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f10\u03bd \u03c4\u1ff7 \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1ff7 \u1f42\u03bd \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f21\u03c3\u03c5\u03c7\u03af\u03b1\u03bd \u1f04\u03b3\u03b5\u03b9 \u03bf\u1f54\u03b8\u1fbd \u1f15\u03c3\u03c4\u03b7\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f50 \u03b3\u1f70\u03c1 \u03bf\u1f37\u03cc\u03bd \u03c4\u03b5.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03c4\u1f78 \u1f13\u03bd \u1f04\u03c1\u03b1, \u1f61\u03c2 \u1f14\u03bf\u03b9\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd, \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f15\u03c3\u03c4\u03b7\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03b9\u03bd\u03b5\u1fd6\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f54\u03ba\u03bf\u03c5\u03bd \u03b4\u1f74 \u03c6\u03b1\u03af\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b1\u03af \u03b3\u03b5.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u1f72 \u03bc\u1f74\u03bd \u03c4\u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03cc\u03bd \u03b3\u03b5 \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u1ff3 \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f11\u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u1ff7 \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9, \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u1fbd \u03b1\u1f56 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u03b1\u1f51\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03bf\u1f54\u03c4\u03b5 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u03bf\u03c5 \u1f02\u03bd \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03c0\u1fc7 \u03b4\u03ae;<\/span><\/p>\n \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u03bc\u03ad\u03bd \u03c0\u03bf\u03c5 \u1f11\u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 \u1f42\u03bd \u1f11\u03bd\u1f78\u03c2 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u1f02\u03bd \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7 \u03ba\u03b1\u1f76 \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f02\u03bd \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7 \u1f15\u03bd.<\/span><\/p>\n \u1f00\u03bb\u03b7\u03b8\u1fc6.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03ba\u03b1\u1f76 \u03bc\u1f74\u03bd \u03c4\u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03cc\u03bd \u03b3\u03b5 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u1ff3 \u1f42\u03bd \u1f10\u03ba\u03b5\u1fd6\u03bd\u03bf \u1f02\u03bd \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7, \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1f78 [139\u03be] \u03b4\u1fbd \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f02\u03bd \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7: \u1f65\u03c3\u03c4\u03b5 \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u1fbd \u1f02\u03bd \u03bf\u1f55\u03c4\u03c9\u03c2 \u03b5\u1f34\u03b7 \u1f45\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1 \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd, \u1f15\u03bd, \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1fbd \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u1f11\u03bd\u03cc\u03c2.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f50 \u03b3\u1f70\u03c1 \u03bf\u1f56\u03bd.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03c4\u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1f78\u03bd \u03bc\u1f72\u03bd \u1f04\u03c1\u03b1 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u1ff3 \u1f22 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u1f11\u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f50 \u03b3\u03ac\u03c1.<\/span><\/p>\n \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u03b4\u03ad \u03b3\u03b5 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u03bf\u03c5 \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9, \u1f15\u03c9\u03c2 \u1f02\u03bd \u1f96 \u1f15\u03bd: \u03bf\u1f50 \u03b3\u1f70\u03c1 \u1f11\u03bd\u1f76 \u03c0\u03c1\u03bf\u03c3\u03ae\u03ba\u03b5\u03b9 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u1ff3 \u03c4\u03b9\u03bd\u1f78\u03c2 \u03b5\u1f36\u03bd\u03b1\u03b9, \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1f70 \u03bc\u03cc\u03bd\u1ff3 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u1ff3 \u1f11\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u03bf\u03c5, \u1f04\u03bb\u03bb\u1ff3 \u03b4\u1f72 \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u03b5\u03bd\u03af.<\/span><\/p>\n \u1f40\u03c1\u03b8\u1ff6\u03c2.<\/span><\/p>\n \u03c4\u1ff7 \u03bc\u1f72\u03bd \u1f04\u03c1\u03b1 \u1f13\u03bd \u03b5\u1f36\u03bd\u03b1\u03b9 \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd: \u1f22 \u03bf\u1f34\u03b5\u03b9;<\/span><\/p>\n \u03bf\u1f50 \u03b4\u1fc6\u03c4\u03b1.<\/span><\/p>\n \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1f70 \u03bc\u1f74\u03bd \u03b5\u1f30 \u03bc\u1f74 \u03c4\u03bf\u03cd\u03c4\u1ff3, \u03bf\u1f50\u03c7 \u1f11\u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u1ff7 \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9, \u03b5\u1f30 \u03b4\u1f72 \u03bc\u1f74 \u03b1\u1f51\u03c4\u1ff7, \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u1f72 \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03cc: \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1f78 \u03b4\u1f72 \u03bc\u03b7\u03b4\u03b1\u03bc\u1fc7 \u1f42\u03bd \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd \u03bf\u1f50\u03b4\u03b5\u03bd\u1f78\u03c2 \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9<\/span><\/p>\n Perge ad sequens caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad prius caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad indicem<\/p>\n [139 b] \u2014 Mas lo que de manera alguna est\u00e1 en el mismo lugar ni<\/i> reposa ni<\/i> est\u00e1 quieto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No le es posible.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Luego, tal parece, Lo<\/i> Uno ni<\/i> est\u00e1 quieto ni<\/i> se mueve.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Pues parece ya que no.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Ni ser\u00e1 id\u00e9ntico con otro ni<\/i> consigo mismo, ni<\/i> ser\u00eda diverso ni<\/i> de s\u00ed mismo ni<\/i> de otro.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 \u00bfC\u00f3mo as\u00ed?<\/span><\/p>\n [65] \u2014 Caso de ser diverso de s\u00ed mismo, ser\u00eda diverso de \u00abUno\u00bb y no ser\u00eda \u00abuno\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Es verdad.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Mas, en caso de ser id\u00e9ntico con otro, ser\u00eda ese otro [139 c] y no ser\u00eda \u00e9l, de modo que as\u00ed no ser\u00eda lo que es, Uno, sino algo diverso de Uno.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 En efecto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 As\u00ed que no ser\u00e1 ni<\/i> id\u00e9ntico con otro ni<\/i> diverso de s\u00ed mismo.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Pues no.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Mas tampoco ser\u00e1 diverso de otro diverso, mientras sea Uno, porque no conviene a lo uno ser diverso de un otro, sino tan s\u00f3lo a lo diverso conviene lo de diverso, mas no a ning\u00fan otro.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Correctamente.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 As\u00ed que, por ser Uno, no ser\u00eda diverso. \u00bfNo te parece?<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No por cierto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Mas, si no lo es por esto, no lo ser\u00e1 por s\u00ed mismo; mas, si no lo es por s\u00ed mismo, no lo ser\u00e1. Pero, no siendo en modo alguno diverso, no ser\u00e1 diverso de nadie.<\/span><\/p>\n Perge ad sequens caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad prius caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad indicem<\/p>\n [65] \u2014 Pero, sin embargo, lo que jam\u00e1s est\u00e1 en el mismo lugar ni se est\u00e1 quieto ni se mantiene en reposo.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No. No le es posible.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 En consecuencia, seg\u00fan parece, ni se mantiene en reposo ni se mueve.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Eso, al menos, es lo que parece.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Adem\u00e1s, tampoco ser\u00e1 lo mismo que algo diferente ni que \u00e9l mismo, y, a su vez, no ser\u00e1 diferente de s\u00ed mismo ni de algo diferente X84X.1<\/a><\/sup>\u03c4\u1f78 \u03b1\u1f51\u03c4\u03cc: \u00ablo mismo\u00bb; \u03c4\u1f78 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd: \u00ablo diferente\u00bb. Ambos tienen una importancia capital en el tratamiento de los g\u00e9neros supremos en Sofista<\/i> 254 e.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 \u00bfC\u00f3mo es eso?<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Si fuera diferente de s\u00ed mismo, seria diferente de uno y no ser\u00eda uno.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Es verdad.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Y si fuera lo mismo que algo diferente, ser\u00eda este [139 c] algo diferente y no ser\u00eda \u00e9l mismo; de ah\u00ed que, de ese modo, no ser\u00eda lo que es, uno, sino diferente de uno.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No. No ser\u00eda uno, en efecto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 En consecuencia, no ser\u00e1 ni lo mismo que algo diferente, ni diferente de s\u00ed mismo.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No, por cierto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Y as\u00ed no ser\u00e1 diferente de algo diferente, en tanto que es uno; en efecto, ser diferente de alguna cosa no le conviene a lo uno, sino s\u00f3lo a lo diferente de algo diferente, y a nada m\u00e1s.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Es cierto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Entonces, por el hecho de ser uno, no ser\u00e1 diferente. \u00bfO crees que lo ser\u00e1?<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 No lo ser\u00e1, por cierto.<\/span><\/p>\n \u2014 Pero, adem\u00e1s, si no lo es por esto, no lo ser\u00e1 por s\u00ed mismo, y si no lo es por s\u00ed mismo, tampoco lo ser\u00e1 [66] \u00e9l mismo. Pero si no es de ning\u00fan modo diferente, no ser\u00e1 diferente de nada.<\/span><\/p>\n X84X = \u1f78 \u03b1\u1f51\u03c4\u03cc: \u00ablo mismo\u00bb; \u03c4\u1f78 \u1f15\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03bf\u03bd: \u00ablo diferente\u00bb. Ambos tienen una importancia capital en el tratamiento de los g\u00e9neros supremos en Sofista<\/i> 254 e.<\/span><\/p>\n Perge ad sequens caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad prius caput<\/a><\/p>\n Redde ad indicem<\/p>\n [139b] \u201cApparently not.\u201d \u201cBut that which is never in the same is neither motionless nor at rest.\u201d \u201cNo, it cannot be so.\u201d \u201cThe one, then, it appears, is neither in motion nor at rest.\u201d \u201cNo, apparently not.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n \u201cNeither, surely, can it be the same with another or with itself; nor again other than itself or another.\u201d \u201cWhy not?\u201d \u201cIf it were other than itself, it would be other than one and would not be one.\u201d \u201cTrue.\u201d \u201cAnd, surely, if it were the same with another, it would be that other, and would not be itself; [139c] therefore in this case also it would not be that which it is, namely one, but other than one.\u201d \u201cQuite so.\u201d \u201cThen it will not be the same as another, nor other than itself.\u201d \u201cNo.\u201d \u201cBut it will not be other than another, so long as it is one. For one cannot be other than anything; only other, and nothing else, can be other than another.\u201d \u201cRight.\u201d \u201cThen it will not be other by reason of being one, will it?\u201d \u201cCertainly not.\u201d \u201cAnd if not for this reason, not by reason of itself; and if not by reason of itself, not itself; but since itself is not other at all,<\/span><\/p>\n\u03a0\u03b1\u03c1\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03af\u03b4\u03b7\u03c2<\/span><\/h1>\n
Parm\u00e9nides (Caracas)<\/span><\/h1>\n
Parm\u00e9nides (Madrid)<\/span><\/h1>\n
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