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Das menschliche und g\u00f6ttliche Gesetz, der Mann und das Weib]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">[La ley humana]<\/span><\/p>\n\n<h1 lang=\"de-DE\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Gespr\u00e4che in Jena<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>6<\/b><b>]<\/b> Die Einzelheit hat an dem Wesen, das wir hier betrachten, die Bedeutung des <i>Selbstbewu\u00dftseins<\/i> \u00fcberhaupt, nicht eines einzelnen zuf\u00e4lligen Bewu\u00dftseins. Die sittliche Substanz ist also in dieser Bestimmung die <i>wirkliche<\/i> Substanz, der absolute Geist in der Vielheit des daseienden <i>Bewu\u00dftseins realisiert<\/i>; er ist das <i>Gemeinwesen<\/i>, welches <i>f\u00fcr uns<\/i> bei dem Eintritt in die praktische Gestaltung der Vernunft \u00fcberhaupt das absolute Wesen war und hier in seiner Wahrheit <i>f\u00fcr sich<\/i> selbst als bewu\u00dftes sittliches Wesen und als das <i>Wesen f\u00fcr das<\/i> Bewu\u00dftsein, das wir zum Gegenstande haben, hervorgetreten ist. Es ist Geist, welcher <i>f\u00fcr sich<\/i> [ist], indem er im <i>Gegenschein der Individuen<\/i> sich, \u2013 und <i>an sich<\/i> oder Substanz ist, indem er sie in sich erh\u00e4lt. Als die <i>wirkliche Substanz<\/i> ist er <i>ein Volk<\/i>, als <i>wirkliches Bewu\u00dftsein B\u00fcrger<\/i> des Volkes. Dies Bewu\u00dftsein hat an dem einfachen Geiste sein <i>Wesen<\/i> und die Gewi\u00dfheit seiner selbst in der <i>Wirklichkeit<\/i> dieses Geistes, dem ganzen Volke, und unmittelbar darin seine <i>Wahrheit<\/i>, also nicht in etwas, das nicht wirklich ist, sondern in einem Geiste, der <i>existiert<\/i> und <i>gilt<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00447\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00445\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Valencia<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>6<\/b><b>]<\/b> Pues la individualidad [<i>E<\/i><i>inze<\/i><i>l<\/i><i>nheit<\/i>] tiene en la esencia o ser [<i>Wesen<\/i>] que aqu\u00ed estamos considerando [en el ser \u00e9tico] el significado de <i>autoconciencia<\/i> en general, o de la autoconciencia en general, no de una conciencia particular contingente. La sustancia \u00e9tica es, por tanto, en esta determinaci\u00f3n [en la determinaci\u00f3n de autoconciencia en general] sustancia <i>real<\/i>, el esp\u00edritu <i>realizado<\/i> en la pluralidad de la <i>conciencia que est\u00e1 ah\u00ed<\/i> [o de las conciencias que est\u00e1n ah\u00ed, de las conciencias existentes]; es el ser com\u00fan (o el ser en com\u00fan) que para <i>nosotros<\/i>, cuando entramos en la forma o figura pr\u00e1ctica de la raz\u00f3n [cosa que sucedi\u00f3 en el cap. V, B, C], era el ser absoluto [es decir, que cuando entr\u00e1bamos en la forma o figura pr\u00e1ctica de la raz\u00f3n, era el ser absoluto, pero lo era s\u00f3lo para <i>nosotros<\/i>] y que aqu\u00ed ha surgido [se ha presentado, o ha amanecido]<i> <\/i><i>para s\u00ed mismo<\/i> en su verdad como ser \u00e9tico consciente y como <i>ser para<\/i> esa misma conciencia [o como ser que tiene esa misma conciencia] que aqu\u00ed nosotros tenemos por objeto. Es el esp\u00edritu que es <i>para s<\/i><i>\u00ed<\/i>, en cuanto se recibe o cobra a s\u00ed mismo o se da alcance a s\u00ed mismo precisamente <i>reflej\u00e1ndose o reluciendo en los individuos<\/i> [<i>Individuen<\/i>], o que es en s\u00ed o que es sustancia precisamente manteniendo a esos individuos en \u00e9l. En tanto que <i>sustancia real<\/i>, el esp\u00edritu es <i>un pueblo<\/i> [<i>V<\/i><i>o<\/i><i>l<\/i><i>k<\/i>], y en cuanto <i>conciencia real<\/i> son los ciudadanos de ese pueblo. <i>Esta<\/i> conciencia tiene en el esp\u00edritu simple su esencia [su <i>Wesen<\/i>, aquello que ella es], y tiene la certeza de s\u00ed misma en la <i>realidad<\/i> de este esp\u00edritu, en todo el pueblo, y tiene inmediatamente en ello su <i>verdad<\/i>, por tanto, no la tiene en algo que no sea real, sino en un esp\u00edritu que existe (que est\u00e1 ah\u00ed) y que est\u00e1 vigente, que se hace <i>valer<\/i> [y que se est\u00e1 haciendo valer en ese su <i>existir<\/i>].<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00447\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00445\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Madrid<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>6<\/b><b>]<\/b> [529] La singularidad tiene, en la esencia que estamos examinando aqu\u00ed, el significado de la <i>autoconciencia<\/i> en general, no el de una conciencia singular contingente. La substancia \u00e9tica, pues, en esta determinaci\u00f3n, es la <i>substancia efectivamente real<\/i>, el esp\u00edritu absoluto <i>realizado<\/i> en la pluralidad de conciencias existentes; \u00e9ste es la <i>cosa p\u00fablica<\/i>, <i>o esencia com\u00fan<\/i> que <i>para nosotros<\/i>, al entrar en la configuraci\u00f3n pr\u00e1ctica de la raz\u00f3n como tal, era la esencia absoluta y aqu\u00ed ha surgido en su verdad para s\u00ed misma como esencia \u00e9tica consciente, y como la <i>esencia para la<\/i> conciencia que tenemos por objeto. Esta cosa p\u00fablica es el esp\u00edritu que es <i>para s\u00ed<\/i> en tanto que se mantiene en el <i>reflejo mutuo de unos individuos en otros<\/i>; y que es <i>en s\u00ed<\/i> o substancia en tanto que los mantiene a ellos dentro de s\u00ed. En cuanto <i>substancia efectivamente real<\/i>, es <i>un pueblo<\/i>, <i>en cuanto conciencia efectivamente real<\/i>, es <i>ciudadano<\/i> del pueblo. Esta conciencia tiene su esencia en el esp\u00edritu simple, y la certeza de s\u00ed misma, la tiene en la <i>realidad efectiva<\/i> de ese esp\u00edritu, en el pueblo entero, e inmediatamente en \u00e9l tiene su <i>verdad<\/i>; esto es, no en algo que no sea efectivo, sino en un esp\u00edritu que <i>existe<\/i> y <i>tiene vigencia<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00447\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00445\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversations in Washington<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>4<\/b><b>6<\/b><b>]<\/b> [446]<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">We kept the numeration given by the editor in the printed edition<\/span> In the essence we are here considering, the meaning of singular individuality is that of <i>self-consciousness<\/i> in general, not that of a singular, contingent consciousness. In this determination, the ethical substance is thus the <i>actual<\/i> substance, absolute spirit <i>realized<\/i> in the plurality of determinately existing <i>consciousnesses<\/i>. The spirit is the <i>polity<\/i>,<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-2\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\"><i>Gemeinwesen<\/i><\/span> which, when we entered into the practical shaping of reason itself, was <i>for us<\/i> the absolute essence and which here emerges in its truth <i>for itself<\/i> as a conscious ethical essence and as the <i>essence for the consciousness<\/i> which we now have as our object. It is spirit which is <i>for itself<\/i>, while it sustains itself within the <i>counter-glow<\/i><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-3\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\"><i>Gegenschein<\/i>. This word occurs in English dictionaries as a loan word from German, and it literally means \u201ccounter-glow\u201d (as I have rendered it here instead of leaving it as \u201cGegenschein\u201d). It is sometimes rendered as \u201copposition-effect.\u201d It is a diffuse, faint light which is sometimes visible at a spot in the night sky at the point at which the sun is focused on the opposite side of the earth; it is believed to be sunlight which is reflected by dust particles in the atmosphere.<\/span> of <i>the individuals<\/i> \u2013 and which is <i>in itself<\/i>, or is substance while it sustains the individuals within itself. As the actual <i>substance<\/i>, it is <i>a people<\/i>, and as <i>actual consciousness<\/i>, it is the <i>citizens<\/i> of the nation.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"4\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-4\">4<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-4\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"4\">The word for \u201cpeople\u201d and \u201cnation\u201d here is the same German word, <i>Volk<\/i>. In other writings, however, Hegel distinguishes between a \u201c<i>Nation<\/i>\u201d and a \u201c<i>Volk<\/i>.\u201d<\/span> This consciousness has its <i>essence<\/i> in simple spirit, and its certainty of itself in the <i>actuality<\/i> of this spirit, in the whole people, and it immediately therein has its <i>truth<\/i>. But it does not have its truth in something which is not actual; it has it in a spirit which <i>exists<\/i> and <i>is validly in force<\/i>.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"5\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-5\">5<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007d60000000000000000_4980-5\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"5\">der <i>existiert<\/i> und <i>gilt<\/i>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00447\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00445\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en el <em>Atrium<\/em><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00447\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00445\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"wiki_cats":[],"wiki_tags":[],"class_list":["post-4980","yada_wiki","type-yada_wiki","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Parte de: C. 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