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Beobachtung der Natur]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">[Lo org\u00e1nico; lo inorg\u00e1nico como una forma especial de objeto]<\/span><\/p>\n\n<h1 lang=\"de-DE\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Gespr\u00e4che in Jena<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>2<\/b><b>5<\/b><b>3<\/b><b>]<\/b> Es ist nun zu sehen, welche Wendung f\u00fcr ihn sein Resultat nimmt und welche neue Gestalt seines Beobachtens damit auftritt. Als die Wahrheit dieses versuchenden Bewu\u00dftseins sehen wir das reine Gesetz, welches sich vom sinnlichen Sein [195] befreit; wir sehen es als <i>Begriff<\/i>, der im sinnlichen Sein vorhanden, aber in ihm selbst\u00e4ndig und ungebunden sich bewegt, in es versenkt frei davon und <i>einfacher<\/i> Begriff ist. Dies, was in Wahrheit das <i>Resultat<\/i> und <i>Wesen<\/i> ist, tritt f\u00fcr dies Bewu\u00dftsein nun selbst, aber als <i>Gegenstand<\/i> auf, und zwar, indem er eben f\u00fcr es nicht <i>Resultat<\/i> und ohne die Beziehung auf die vorhergehende Bewegung ist, als eine <i>besondere Art<\/i> von Gegenstand, und sein Verh\u00e4ltnis zu diesem als ein anderes Beobachten.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00254\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00252\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Valencia<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">[Lo org\u00e1nico; lo inorg\u00e1nico como una forma especial de objeto]<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>2<\/b><b>5<\/b><b>3<\/b><b>]<\/b><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007910000000000000000_3185\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">Ep\u00edgrafe: <i><b>Lo org\u00e1nico; lo inorg\u00e1nico como una forma especial de objeto<\/b><\/i>.<\/span> Ahora hay que ver qu\u00e9 giro toma para \u00e9l [es decir, para ese instinto de la raz\u00f3n] su resultado, y qu\u00e9 nueva figura de su observaci\u00f3n [es decir, qu\u00e9 nueva figura de ese su observar] hace acto de presencia con ello. [En lo que se refiere a resultado], como verdad de esta conciencia que experimenta, hemos visto [o nos ha resultado, o hemos obtenido] la pura ley que se libera del ser sensible, y vemos esa ley como <i>concepto<\/i> que est\u00e1 ah\u00ed presente en el ser sensible, pero que se mueve en \u00e9l aut\u00f3nomamente y no ligado, y que, sumido y sumergido en \u00e9l [el concepto en el ser sensible], permanece libre de \u00e9l, y es concepto simple o simple <i>concepto<\/i>. Pues bien, esto que en verdad es el <i>resultado<\/i> y la <i>esencia<\/i> [<i>Wesen<\/i>] se presenta ahora ah\u00ed para la conciencia misma, pero se presenta como objeto X53X,<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007910000000000000000_3185\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-2\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\">Recuerde el lector que \u00e9ste fue el tema del final del cap. III. Ahora se trata de c\u00f3mo la raz\u00f3n observadora trata de darse raz\u00f3n de ese objeto, de hacerse concepto de \u00e9l, de c\u00f3mo busca ella en \u00e9l lo que es de ella, lo<i> suyo<\/i>.<\/span> y ello en t\u00e9rminos tales, que ese objeto no es para ella resultado y no guarda relaci\u00f3n con el movimiento precedente, se le presenta, digo, como una <i>forma especial<\/i> de objeto, y la relaci\u00f3n de la conciencia con \u00e9l [se le presenta a la conciencia] como un observar distinto [es decir, como un tipo de observaci\u00f3n distinto] X54X.<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007910000000000000000_3185\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-3\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\"><i>Vide infra<\/i> <b>Algunas aclaraciones <a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00253\/#x54x\">X54X<\/a><\/b>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Algunas aclaraciones<\/span><\/h2>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">X53X<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Recuerde el lector que \u00e9ste fue el tema del final del cap. III. Ahora se trata de c\u00f3mo la raz\u00f3n observadora trata de darse raz\u00f3n de ese objeto, de hacerse concepto de \u00e9l, de c\u00f3mo busca ella en \u00e9l lo que es de ella, lo<i> suyo<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">X54X<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Hegel va a entender el organismo como concepto existente, como concepto que queda ah\u00ed delante, que a la conciencia se le vuelve objeto. Pero la conciencia observadora no logra reconocerse en \u00e9l, lo cual implica que no logra aclararse acerca del car\u00e1cter de concepto que lo org\u00e1nico exhibe. La \u00abCr\u00edtica del juicio teleol\u00f3gico\u00bb de la <i>Cr\u00edtica del juicio<\/i> de Kant es la genial demostraci\u00f3n de este l\u00edo que se hace la conciencia consigo misma al tenerse ah\u00ed delante como objeto y no lograr reconocerse en \u00e9l, y malentenderse en \u00e9l. Por otro lado, el presente cap. V, A, a, se convierte en una cr\u00edtica de la formaci\u00f3n de conceptos en los inicios de la observaci\u00f3n biol\u00f3gica en el marco de la ciencia natural moderna.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00254\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00252\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Madrid<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>2<\/b><b>5<\/b><b>3<\/b><b>]<\/b> Se ha ver ahora qu\u00e9 giro toma este resultado para el instinto de raz\u00f3n, y qu\u00e9 nueva figura de su observar sale a escena en ese giro. Como verdad de esta conciencia que hace experimentos, vemos la ley pura que se libera del ser sensible, la vemos como <i>concepto<\/i> que se halla presente en el ser sensible, pero se mueve en \u00e9l aut\u00f3nomamente y sin ataduras, est\u00e1 sumergido en \u00e9l, libre de \u00e9l, y es concepto <i>simple<\/i>. Esto, que en verdad es <i>resultado<\/i> y <i>esencia<\/i>, entra ahora en escena por s\u00ed mismo para la conciencia, pero como <i>objeto<\/i>, y por cierto, en tanto que este objeto, justamente para ella, no es <i>resultado<\/i>, ni tiene referencia al movimiento precedente, entra como una <i>especie particular<\/i> de objeto, y la relaci\u00f3n de la conciencia con este objeto entra como otro observar distinto.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00254\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00252\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversations in Washington<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><b>[<\/b><b>2<\/b><b>5<\/b><b>3<\/b><b>]<\/b> [253]<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"4\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007910000000000000000_3185\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-4\">4<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-4\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"4\">We kept the numeration given by the editor in the printed edition<\/span> It is still to be seen what twists and turns its result will take for the instinct of reason and what new shape of its observing will thereby come on the scene. We see the pure law which is freed from sensuous being as the truth of this experimenting consciousness,<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"5\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007910000000000000000_3185\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-5\">5<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007910000000000000000_3185-5\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"5\">versuchenden Bewu\u00dftseins<\/span> as the <i>concept<\/i>, which, present in sensuous being self-sufficiently and unrestrainedly, moves itself within that sensuous being; it is immersed within sensuous being while being free-standing from it, and it is the <i>simple<\/i> concept. For this consciousness itself, what is in truth the <i>result<\/i> and the <i>essence<\/i> now makes its entrance, however, as <i>object<\/i>, and, while it is for consciousness not a <i>result<\/i> and has no relation to the preceding movement, as a <i>particular kind<\/i> of object. Its relation to this consciousness is that of another kind of observing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00254\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00252\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en el <em>Atrium<\/em><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><strong>EN CONSTRVCCION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7044\" src=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-242x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"242\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-242x300.jpg 242w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-827x1024.jpg 827w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-768x951.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-300x371.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church.jpg 1018w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 242px) 100vw, 242px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><strong>EN CONSTRVCCION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00254\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00252\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"wiki_cats":[18],"wiki_tags":[],"class_list":["post-3185","yada_wiki","type-yada_wiki","status-publish","hentry","wiki_cats-fenomenologia"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Parte de: C. 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