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{"id":1596,"date":"2023-04-14T22:14:25","date_gmt":"2023-04-14T22:14:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/?post_type=yada_wiki&#038;p=1596"},"modified":"2024-07-02T22:47:52","modified_gmt":"2024-07-02T22:47:52","slug":"gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00083","status":"publish","type":"yada_wiki","link":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00083\/","title":{"rendered":"Gespr\u00e4che in der D\u00e4mmerung 00083"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Parte de:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>Introducci\u00f3n [Einleitung]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">[M\u00e1s sobre el criterio; concepto y objeto; ser-para-otro y ser-para-s\u00ed-mismo]<\/span><\/p>\n\n<h1 lang=\"de-DE\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Gespr\u00e4che in Jena<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>[83]<\/strong> Untersuchen wir nun die Wahrheit des Wissens, so scheint es, wir untersuchen, was es <i>an sich<\/i> ist. Allein in dieser Untersuchung ist es <i>unser<\/i> Gegenstand, es ist <i>f\u00fcr uns<\/i>; und das <i>Ansich<\/i> desselben, welches sich erg\u00e4be, [w\u00e4re] so vielmehr sein Sein <i>f\u00fcr uns<\/i>; was wir als sein Wesen behaupten w\u00fcrden, w\u00e4re vielmehr nicht seine Wahrheit, sondern nur unser Wissen von ihm. Das Wesen oder der Ma\u00dfstab fiele in uns, und dasjenige, was mit ihm verglichen und \u00fcber welches durch diese Vergleichung entschieden werden sollte, h\u00e4tte ihn nicht notwendig anzuerkennen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00084\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00082\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Valencia<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>[83]<\/strong> Pues bien, si por lo que nos preguntamos es por la verdad del saber parece que lo que nos preguntamos es qu\u00e9 sea en s\u00ed el saber. S\u00f3lo que al investigar tal cosa [al tratarse de qu\u00e9 sea el saber], el saber se convierte en <i>nuestro<\/i> objeto, \u00e9l es <i>para nosotros<\/i>; y entonces el en-s\u00ed del saber, que resultase [o que obtuvi\u00e9semos], ser\u00eda m\u00e1s bien su <i>ser-para-nosotros<\/i>; lo que nosotros afirm\u00e1semos como esencia suya no ser\u00eda tanto su verdad cuanto nuestro saber de \u00e9l [es decir, nuestro saber acerca del saber, o nuestro saber acerca de la esencia del saber]. La esencia o el criterio caer\u00eda en nosotros [caer\u00eda de nuestro lado] y aquello que se comparase con esa esencia o ese criterio y acerca de lo cual mediante esta comparaci\u00f3n hubiera de decidirse, no tendr\u00eda necesariamente que reconocer ese criterio [que nosotros empleamos].<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00084\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00082\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en Madrid<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>[83]<\/strong> Si ahora investigamos la verdad del saber, parece que estamos investigando lo que es <i>en s\u00ed<\/i>. S\u00f3lo que, en esta investigaci\u00f3n, \u00e9l es <i>nuestro<\/i> objeto, es <i>para nosotros<\/i>; y el <i>en s\u00ed<\/i> suyo que resultara ser\u00eda entonces, m\u00e1s bien, un ser <i>para nosotros<\/i>; lo que afirm\u00e1ramos que fuera su esencia ser\u00eda, m\u00e1s bien, no su verdad, sino s\u00f3lo nuestro saber acerca de \u00e9l. La esencia o el patr\u00f3n de medida estar\u00edan en nosotros, y aquello que se compara con este patr\u00f3n, y acerca de lo cual hay que decidir por medio de esta comparaci\u00f3n, no tendr\u00eda por qu\u00e9 reconocerlo necesariamente.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00084\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00082\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversations in Washington<\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>[83]<\/strong> [83]<sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"00000000000007770000000000000000_1596\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-00000000000007770000000000000000_1596-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-00000000000007770000000000000000_1596-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">We kept the numeration given by the editor in the printed edition<\/span> If we then investigate the truth of knowing, it seems that we are investigating what knowing is <i>in itself<\/i>. Yet in this investigation, knowing is <i>our<\/i> object. It is <i>for us<\/i>, and the <i>in-itself<\/i> of knowing, which would result from the investigation, would be instead its being <i>for us<\/i>. What we would assert to be its essence would instead not be its truth but rather only our knowing of it. The essence or the standard would lie within us, and that which was supposed to be compared with the standard, and that about which a decision was supposed to be made on the basis of this comparison would not necessarily have to recognize [<i>anzuerkennen<\/i>] the standard.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00084\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00082\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Conversaciones en el <em>Atrium<\/em><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><strong>EN CONSTRVCCION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7044\" src=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-242x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"242\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-242x300.jpg 242w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-827x1024.jpg 827w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-768x951.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church-300x371.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Construction_of_a_church.jpg 1018w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 242px) 100vw, 242px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #993300;\"><strong>EN CONSTRVCCION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00084\/\">Siguiente p\u00e1rrafo<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00082\/\">P\u00e1rrafo anterior<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wiki\/gesprache-in-der-dammerung-00000\/\">Ir al \u00edndice<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"wiki_cats":[18],"wiki_tags":[],"class_list":["post-1596","yada_wiki","type-yada_wiki","status-publish","hentry","wiki_cats-fenomenologia"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yada_wiki\/1596","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yada_wiki"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/yada_wiki"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1596"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yada_wiki\/1596\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8165,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yada_wiki\/1596\/revisions\/8165"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1596"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"wiki_cats","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/wiki_cats?post=1596"},{"taxonomy":"wiki_tags","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/atriumphilosophicum.es\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/wiki_tags?post=1596"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}